[guppygirl]

Why the interrupted night cycle? Why not just do 13/11?

[broncogrow]

Just guessing too close to 12/12 would maybe start flowering?

[broncogrow]

Also seen someone use a 60w cfl for the hour on so it doesn’t seem like it needs a whole lot to disrupt the flower cycle. I’ll keep the DGC posted but if I can save a few bucks and maybe get faster flower I’m taking the gamble

[guppygirl]

They’ll flower at 14/10 in many cases, 13/11 is still flower lighting. I don’t understand what the point of the break in the night cycle is for?

[ZoomyCat]

People have done the testing. They are going with these numbers due to the scientific testing done. If I remember correctly the number was 13.5 hours is the actual split time where the plant won’t flip to flower.

[Sasquatch]

The Plant be like, “WTF is wrong with the Sun? I ain’t doing shit until it’s fixed!” 🤣

[surfdad_grows]

We can’t turn the sun off during the day and turn it back on at 1 AM. What lights are you running trying to save energy costs with? If it’s heat and costs, run your lights at night off peak hours.

In other words boy, now you’re playing with fire. 🤣.

[broncogrow]

Maybe a 30% savings on electric (bad with math) but interesting if they flower sooner once flipped.

[Sasquatch]

And to add to that, try a Fast Flower and see if that knocks off a couple weeks off the total grow which in turn either gives you down time (savings), or more yield over the year offsetting the cost to run the setup. Now I’m wondering….LOL

[surfdad_grows]

Realistically, run your lights at night if you’re worried about that little. But once you go to flower you can’t play anymore.

[Hash]

Gas light/lamp veg cycles work okay. I used this tech for a couple years. The general idea (as explained by the group I learned it from) was you’re saving money by spending less on lighting… The other “alleged benefit” is by breaking up the plants dark cycle in the middle of the “night”, the plant stays on the verge of flower, so that when you flip, the auxins are already fired up and the transition to flower takes less time.

Again, not facts, just how things were explained to me by a weed cult I was in once. Lol.

I like 24/0 for veg. Faster and better growth. They can sleep when they flower. ✌️🤙

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[broncogrow]

That’s what I’m getting. Definitely info on the inter webs. For the record I’m going to start it tomorrow. I’ve got two plants ready to flip so I’ll see. Plan on running 2 weeks like that and then flip just to see what happens. If all goes well I’ll try the whole next veg that way

[Sasquatch]

Sleep when they Flower is my mindset with my grows. Work hard and then slumber. LOL @Hash

• This reply was modified 1 week, 6 days ago by  Sasquatch. Reason: I swear that doesn't always happen!

[broncogrow]

I’ve got 2 Jack Herer clones close to ready to flip. I’m going switch the timing tomorrow. Hopefully I can grow them a few weeks before they are ready to flip. Got to watch the stretch I’ve grown this before. Just see if anything funky happens. I’ll post pics tomorrow

[broncogrow]

[broncogrow]

So I’m gonna change the time now. They are Jack Herer clones. Grown it a couple times so I have some familiarity. Hopefully I can experiment for a couple weeks before they get too tall. Gonna mostly run side lights for now and use one of the top lights for the hour on. ACI control doesn’t seem to work for more than one light cycle day. Anyway don’t really have anything to lose be interesting to see what they do if flower comes faster when I go 12/12

[jmystro]

A home grower will see no benefit to power saving at such a small scale. This is more a technique for greedy commercial guys at scale.

[broncogrow]

Respect. I’m trying to save what I can. Growing saves so much unbelievable to begin with. I’m trying to squeeze it a bit. Hey if I can cut 5 hours of power that makes me green? I’m bad with math but if all indoor cut 20-30% that actually is something?

[miljeff420]

Let’s say you’re running About a thousand w with everything combined lights, air conditioner, dehumidifier, fans. The national rate for electricity is $0.19 per kilowatt hour. You’re saving about 5 kW hours per night in this scenario. So that’s 150 KW hours times $0.19. $28.50 possibly a bit more than that with taxes and fees.

If you want to save money, get on and off peak program. A lot of electric companies have multiple different off-peak programs. Mine has three different plans. I’m on a 12/12 Monday through Friday on-peak 9am-9pm. $0.24 Peak, 0.08 Off Peak, I even get federal holidays off peak. There’s 60 hours per week on peak, and 108 off Peak on that plan. Looking into it is worth it. If your Electric company has something like that, You could cut down your electric usage by using automated light dimmers when electricity is more expensive. Which would then save on cooling cost too.

Using a lot of electricity is at night is becoming much more normal because of electric vehicles and charging them off Peak. That shouldn’t raise any eyebrows anymore.

[broncogrow]

Maryland here thankfully electric is not that expensive here. Not yet at least. Just thinking why pay for it if you don’t need too. As well as say reducing carbon footprint. I’ll post some pictures soon but I’ve noticed the internode distance has decreased. Will be helpful with stretchy types. I have a feeling this will cut a week off flower as well. This is also supposed to be a benefit. Here’s one for you if more people start using electric at night will there still be off peak discount?

[miljeff420]

We are a ways from that. But I do know one of the issues now is the wild swings in demand and having to anticipate heating up water in order to spin turbines, or having to waste energy/heat in order to keep this hot even when the demand isn’t there. So if everything is more on an even level throughout all of the day, I’d imagine the overall cost or the average would stay low or lower than it otherwise would be if we keep doing the same thing we are doing now. We are changing, like with battery storage that is a instant on in milliseconds, and excess electricity can be stored, it’s a better and cheaper option than most peaker plants.

[broncogrow]

Back in the day energy would be too cheap to meter thanks to the atom. More talk about that for data centers ai and bitcoin. Let’s make growing green. Just messing I’ll need a half year to see if it will work for me. Just putting it out there

[broncogrow]

Gonna document start now. Look for nannas. Gave a defol little rough like a goat with a fence. Hopefully two weeks. Watch for nannas

[chefmatt-a]

I’m running 800w between two tents it’s not bad run them at night go lights on here in Md at 4pm to 10 am for veg and 6pm to 6 am and I run my light smack dab at the top of the tent at 50% in veg and 80 to 100 in flower saw a 40 dollar increase in living room so don’t have to worry about temps and run a over sized fan on a 6in tee and pull from both tents and only have to run that at 40 to 50%

[broncogrow]

Update 9 days. ready for flower. Was waiting for a heater. Let the experiment begin. Figure less stretch and maybe harvest a week sooner. Definitely closer internode spacing. Certainly some from side lights. No control group here

[broncogrow]

No weirdness yet. I’ll keep posted for say 8 weeks. Hopefully only 7