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[DugInGrows]

I was gifted two photoperiod plants, Erie Maiden, that are looking a bit unhealthy on their fan leaves, I believe they may be around 6 weeks old currently. Trying to diagnose some leaf issues and looking for advice I can apply moving forward. Thanks!

Outdoor grow currently, will be moving into a 4×4 soon.

Is this just a little bit of nitrogen deficiency or needs some cal mag?

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[T-bone]

Welcome!

New grower myself, but here’s what I’d do.

Since they are photos still in veg, I’d up-pot them to at least 5gal containers amended with some dry nutes to give them room to grow. Then give them a light liquid feed of a half serving of your preferred nutes + Cal-Mag + a microbe mix like Recharge and/or Stash Blend to get them out of their funk fast.

Do you already have your grow space set up? Do you have any idea what you are getting into?

One of us…One of us…

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[DugInGrows]

This is also my main outdoor garden at my other house.

Around week 6

Photo Periods – Lemon Sugar, Hindu Kush, Green Goblin

Autoflowers – Zkittles Ztrawberry

Just transplanted my lemon sugar and Hindu Into 30 gallons, I need a little more soil tho. And the green goblin is starting to revive, I had to flush her.

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[DugInGrows]

Autos

Zkittles and Ztrawberry week 6

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[DugInGrows]

And these are my little seedlings

Peanut Butter Breath x Dragon Juice

And a White Widow that has really funky leaves. Idk if it’s a mutant.

I can already start to see some differences in their leaf formations. Some are shorter and fatter and the other is thinner and longer. But it’s still very early.

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[DugInGrows]

I guess I should work on getting a 3-5 gallon container, soil, and transplant them.

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[DugInGrows]

I have a little 4×4 kit currently. I have an ACInfinity EVO6 in the mail for a full spectrum light replacement with under canopy lighting.

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[DugInGrows]

On the topic of equipment I also have a BlueLabs PH and EC pen to help with liquid nutes and these are the current nutrients I have. And an RO filter.

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[DugInGrows]

I’m not sure exactly how to mix these nutrients or when I’m supposed to ph balance.

I normally do FoxFarm – Cal Mag, Veg/Bloom, PH, then the BushDoctor line, which seems to be microbes and root booster and sugar and worm castings(BigBloom)

• This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by  DugInGrows.
• This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by  DugInGrows.

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[T-bone]

Here’s the order how I learned to mix nutes to avoid/minimize unhelpful interactions:

1. Silica
2. Cal-Mag
3. Primary Nutes
4. Other nutes
5. Adjust PH (PH up/dn gets mixed with a small cup of RO to dilute, then mixed into main bucket to avoid precipitating nutes.)
6. Microbes

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[DugInGrows]

I’ll dilute my ph with water before adding it to the whole feed mix next time to help me get to 6.0-6.5 without overshooting.

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[DugInGrows]

Do you ever check your ph/ec after microbes? Sometimes mine gets really off at the end and it worries me that I’m feeding wrong.

Should I check runoff?

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• This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by  DugInGrows.

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[CincyJay420]

I was told silica should be on its own. Not to mix with any other nutes.

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[hollywoodmike]

Silica first and depending on manufacturer waiting 5 mins after mixing silica into water. I use Ventana Plant Science silica. No waiting just mix first. No precipitation.

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[DugInGrows]

I don’t have any silica, but it can be added to your feed if it’s mixed in first.

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[jmystro]

There’s no nutritional issue with your plants. The damaged leaves are from damaged roots. Damaged roots will cause random damage on leaves like you’re seeing. Under or over-watering is the typical reason new growers physically damage roots.

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[DugInGrows]

Thanks! I’ll be transplanting this week and hopefully this fixes the issue!

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[Thickems]

I second that motion. I would like to add about moving them inside. Get some pest treatment. Pest drag inside very easy doing this. A root drench, and a foliar since not in flower.

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[DugInGrows]

I treat with neem weekly while in veg. I’m looking into a wider range of ipm to prevent pests becoming resistant to treatment.

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[T-bone]

I don’t re-PH after adding microbes, if it was PHed correctly already, the microbes will handle the rest.
As far as checking runoff goes, I water my girls with a cycle of RO only->Bottle nutes(in RO)->Fish tank water. So whenever the cycle calls for RO only, I add my normal amount (1gal), and then slowly add about half a gallon until I get sufficient runoff to test. That way I know where to adjust the nutes and PH of the next step in the cycle.

And everything gets noted in an ever expanding excel spreadsheet that I both love and hate. I’m still 3 weeks from harvest on my first grow and my GrowSheetV2 has at least doubled the data collection over V1. I’m a nerd.

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[battlemorph]

Hey, fellow Nerd, could I have a template of the excel sheet, please?

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[T-bone]

Got somewhere you want me to send it or drop it?

Just a reminder, I’m still really new so I guarantee someone has a better tracker, but you are welcome to what I’ve put together so far.

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[northernlightkind-nlk]

You will get a much happyer & healthy plant if you transplant, give them beautys new shoes asap. With that small pot it can be There are several causes, rootbound, pH problems, general stress, etc. that can cause a lot of symptoms that are easily misinterpreted & lead to you treating the wrong thing and digging yourself an even deeper hole.

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[DugInGrows]

Transplanting this week!

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[Unknown Member]

Be super careful moving from outdoors to inside the bugs will follow indoors then u got a bigger problem

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[DugInGrows]

Might just have to neem every 3 days instead of every 7

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[Unknown Member]

I don’t spray my plants with anything just try and keep the space spotless

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[Unknown Member]

But if I really had to spray I’d go with list coast plant therapy safe organic plant wash.

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[blazerbay22]

I did that and it sucked I put the plant down I. My kitchen counter and next thing I know bugs all over my kitchen

Thankfully it didn’t make it to my tent

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[DugInGrows]

Upping my ipm and neem before migrating inside

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[smokythebear]

may be from shipping , plant um baby um and youll be good

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[smokythebear]

all kinds of nastys can come in from out side , BE CARFULL!!!!!!!

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