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Boomhour posted an update in the group
4 days agoAsk a Grow Question after week 1 of veg subtract 15 min per day until you get to 12/12 cycle should set the internal clock ticking down and the plant knows its time to flower more naturally. turning light power up as you go what says you?
surfdad_grows11 Comments-
I wonder if my AC Infinity AI controller can do that?
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Yeah that’s not how it goes. I scottie words “it’s rain man, it’s the total amount of drops your plants receive during there 18 to 24 hour veg. Well say 18, right scotty.
So, when you slam them into flower, 12 of light nor 18 anymore. So, you slowly start to increase your light daily until you have reached the amount of rain they were getting at 18 hours
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I love edibles
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@oldestschool I do to Bud ain’t got much choice anymore with severe COPD
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@cajunman don’t feel bad mate. After eating concentrates, green just doesn’t work anymore. Edibles last so much longer
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@oldestschool that they do is last longer totally different from head high to body. With smoking to edibles
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before I tell my opinion on that I’ll think it through for you:
15min off per day means you’ll need 4 days to get rid of 1 hour on the light cycle. you want to get rid of 6 hours 6*4=24 so you would need 24 days to switch from veg to flower… that’s more than 3 weeks. Do you want to spend 3 weeks to switch from veg to flower?
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@BePennjier eww, no math. There is a whole episode on it. A couple really where its mentioned again and again.
Rain drops
Rain drops
Love ya Scotty lol
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If you can’t find it, remind me and I’ll look it up for you
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@oldestschool
I know what you mean with what Scotty keeps saying but my reply isn’t about this. I was after the pure time investment here. In my opinion it’s better to veg for 3 weeks and switch hard to 12/12 than veg for 1 week and spend 3 weeks switching to 12/12. I’ve done this with 1 hour a day off. so it took me a week (or 6 days). it’s not worth the time and effort. and my opinion on this gradually light on and off (sunrise/sunset simulation as well as this autumn simulation)is it’s is more for the humans then the plants. Sometimes I think people are this 🙌 close to start singing lullabys to their plants 😉😂 but when you have a pet bird you just throw a blanket over the cage when it’s night time and you take it away when it’s day time. no sunrise or sunset necessary 😛as far as we know now the IR portion (the reds) in the light plays more of a role to trigger things in plants than turning the whole light spectrum on or off (to trigger things not to fuel photosynthesis tho). From switching the metabolism from day to night cycle as well as concentraiton of hormons to start and stop flowering. until recently turning the whole thing on and off just was our only option. now we have those supplemental lightbars and I think we will see some new and good data about that within the next years.
outdoors plants start flowering way before the light is at 12/12 which means there are more things at play than just turning the light on and off or gradually shortening the light cycle. If you really want a natural way you’d have to be able to change the whole lightspectrum throughout the day and the grow…
What you mean oldestschool is the DLI, the amount of light the plant gets throughout a day and you are absolutley right (and Scotty is too) when you decrease the light hours you decrease the DLI and you want to compensate for that by turning the light up BUT unless you are sure your plants have everything they need (CO2, nuts, water…) IT’S GOOD ADVICE to do this gradually to not burn them.
when I switch to flower I put them on 12/12 and I turn my light up a bit and hang it higher, every day I winch it down a bit, when I’m at the hight I want it to be I turn the light up and hang it higher again and winch it down again… until my light is at 100% (or where you get your desired PPFD) and it’s at the hight I want it to be. I keep an eye on my plants if everything is fine I can do this within 3 days. If they start to complain I prolong the process
sorry the gist is:
yes, when shortening light cycle, increase light to compensate the DLI
no, I don’t think it helps to spend 3 weeks switching from veg to flower
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Why would you do that? Cannabis grows “naturally” with the shifting daylight spectrum, but is “growing naturally” your goal, or is growing it as a farmer who’s looking at final product quantity and quality your goal? Nature grows for seeding and reproduction, not cannabinoid yield. Trying to mimic “natural light” actually will probably reduce plant size and yield.
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