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@scottyreal OK here they are Scotty. Why are they so small y’all ask? Well I will be glad to tell you. They will go into flower approximately August 15. That is a month and a half. I never want them to get any closer to ceiling or walls then is avoidable. I’m not trying to get massive donkey cock. Because I prefer to have medium size without botrytis buds. Therefore, I basically cut every plant in half when I put them outside. and the most important reason, every single day that they are out in the greenhouse, is one more day of opportunity for bugs. The less plant you have the less plant you have to protect. So that’s why I start late and I start small