Advice needed! True Herm?

  • Advice needed! True Herm?

    Posted by fictitiousflower on October 5, 2024 at 1:45 pm

    Hello DGC community! I have had some strange things happen in my last grow and would like some feedback. I posted something similar on reddit in /Nightowl sub and was immediately met with hostility. No one really tried to answer my questions and just insulted me and im not sure if its due to my lack of experience or because declaring i may have a true herm looks bad on Nightowl. I made very clear that what happened was probably a stress induced herm but they all insisted there was no herm. I’ll attempt to condense this and thanks to anyone who reads this!

    my first plant was a nightowl – grape deebo. I accidentally triggered it into flower early so it was small but as soon as it went into flower it made my room smell of candy. It was some of the best bud ive ever had and i got about 2 ozs. It was in a 5 gallon in FF ocean forest soil and i used minimal nutes.

    fast forward to my 3rd plant, another grape deebo. I did great at first, she was in a 5 gallon with coco and soil and i used FF nutes. She got huuuuge but after about the first week of flower i burned her baaaad. Around 60% of the fan leaves were completely dead. I bought new nutes, flushed and she turned around, somehow. Something interesting i noticed was no smell at all even before i burnt and stressed her. The leaves and buds were far more covered in heads than the first run. The buds didnt fill out well but i still got about a 1/2 lb of trim and 1/2 of bud. The flower is bizarre, no smell almost at all and it gets me uncomfortably high, and i smoke a lot. The rosin was green even with a 27u bag. Ive only had this happen with crappy old bud.

    i pulled the plant out to look at it and noticed on the underside and the side that was hidden were little green balls. They stuck out to me immediately. I harvested the plant immediately. I crushed one of the little sacs and there was a tiny yellow seed in it. I also found seeds in the buds. I dont know what it means to have a herm without anthers but from what i read it could be a true herm? Im pretty sure my other in flower was pollinated, the flowers on the same side as the could be herm all showed signs of pollination. I cut them all off but two more have appeared. Ill get a picture of it but all of the pistils were brown and shriveled on the tips only.

    sorry this is so long, my original question on reddit was is this a genotypic expression or a phenotypic expression from stress? Also what am i missing, why did reddit respond as they did? Thank you sooo much and please dont tell me to go fuck myself 😭

    frogslayer replied 4 weeks ago 6 Members · 19 Replies
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  • no-nanners

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    October 5, 2024 at 1:56 pm
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    Attach some pics man…. If you have them.

    Haters gonna hate, growers are gonna have 💩 happen. The ones hating on you probably don’t grow or think they are Gods gift to growing when really they are just crappy humans. Hopefully you get the answers you are looking for.

    • fictitiousflower

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      October 5, 2024 at 2:05 pm
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      Thanks for the kind words man! Illl post some now, i panicked so i have no good pics of the maybe pollen sacs, which is unfortunate but i have a few of it and of my current flower that i believe was pollinated.

  • fictitiousflower

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    October 5, 2024 at 2:07 pm
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    • fictitiousflower

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      October 5, 2024 at 2:09 pm
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      I dont have any pics of the sacs, i thought i did but the pic above is a seed. Really really unfortunate that i didnt take pics but if someone could tell me if those flowers look pollinated that would help me get an idea. Thanks!

      • no-nanners

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        October 5, 2024 at 3:20 pm
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        Yeah bud what you are holding isn’t a pollen sack, I get the same little baby bud balls sometimes where I take a branch off. I don’t see anything that looks herm. Do you have a hard time controlling heat? I wouldn’t worry about it though man. Just get your nutes in order…. Remember it is a plant the same as any other. Enjoy the grow and learn from the process.<div>Plants look good, just a little burn on the tips… it happens to everyone. Maybe just feed half strength. Try some grow dots your next grow… easy is what I go for 😂 </div>

        • fictitiousflower

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          October 5, 2024 at 3:33 pm
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          Thanks man, i know that isnt a pollen sac now but is my other plant in flower pollinated based on my pic? If so than it would’ve have to of been a herm right? Maybe im wrong about it being pollinated but man it looks like it.

          • fictitiousflower

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            October 5, 2024 at 3:35 pm
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            To be clear this is a Watermelon OG that is in about week 3-4 of flower, it was in its 1-2 week when i harvested the deebo.

          • jmystro

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            October 5, 2024 at 3:44 pm
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            Many new growers confuse pre-flower calyx (swollen and mature) as pollen sacs. This is bud, just not clustered like with flowers. This is what mature bud looks like. They go from tiny ovals into round false seed pods when mature.

            • fictitiousflower

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              October 6, 2024 at 3:21 pm
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              Yup, im pretty sure that is why i got a bad reaction on reddit. Ive never seen a pollen sack so i grabbed that calyx thinking it was a pollen sac. Im still not sure if i had a herm or not either way the bud i got from it was pretty horrible. No terps, lot of heads though.

  • GrowingDank

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    October 5, 2024 at 2:08 pm
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    Hello sorry for your problem, to me sounds like stress induced but honestly can’t really get much outa the paragraph that would have to do with stress other then the over feeding. But it happens I’ve never had it to the point off hermaphrodite plants that’s why I’m a bit concerned. Its interesting how it only happened to one plant, maybe you had a possible light leak throughout flower. Thanks for sharing and PS you’ll have way more connections with ppl here then on reddit. I’ve been growing for about 5 years now. Love the hobby love the plant.

    • fictitiousflower

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      October 5, 2024 at 2:11 pm
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      Thanks for the kind words! I was worried no one would respond! Its an autoflower so i don’t think a light leak but my humidity did hit 80% fora few days.

  • ohigrow

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    October 5, 2024 at 2:59 pm
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    I’ve harvested like 35 autos so far this year without any herm issues. I would guess the over feeding triggered it? I know that doesn’t really answer the question but that’s not why I’m responding. Now, concerning the response on Reddit.. I have learned a lot growing autos. What sticks out the most is the negative view most people have. There is so much hate out there it’s hard to get help. The funny thing is most of the haters have never even grown an auto, they simply repeat and exaggerate things they’ve heard. I’m not saying there aren’t drawbacks to growing autos but they don’t deserve all the hate, and the people growing them definitely don’t…. I hope you have a better experience here. ✌️💚

    • fictitiousflower

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      October 5, 2024 at 3:44 pm
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      35 autos this year! Thats incredible, i love them so far and cant wait to be able to grow outside legally so i can grow as many as possible! I am truly attempting to learn and appreciate your kindness ❤️

  • frogslayer

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    October 5, 2024 at 7:40 pm
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    Honestly autos are the worst thing ever to happen to the cannabis grow community. And none of the “breeders” will tell you the truth. I grow autos and they have their place but it’s not in a tent and it’s not for best potency or taste. I challenged anyone, anyone ever, if you think you have a dank auto, grow the photo that it was bred from and it will blow it out of the water every single time hands down no question. You can never clone autos so you’ll never see anything special like a “girl scout cookie” or anything else that is cut only in an auto … Not hating but let’s be real here my people.

    • no-nanners

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      October 6, 2024 at 2:15 am
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      Grow what makes you happy.

      • frogslayer

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        October 7, 2024 at 2:10 pm
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        This is the way.

    • fictitiousflower

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      October 6, 2024 at 3:23 pm
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      That is something i would like to try. For now i only have a 4×2 so it just makes more sense to grow autos but i plan to do this for the rest of my life soooo….. thanks man!

  • ohigrow

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    October 5, 2024 at 10:37 pm
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    There ya go, the typical response you’ll get.. I have no problems with potency, taste or smell. I currently have no desire to clone anything. I’m not pheno hunting looking for the best weed in the world either. Most of what I’ve grown has been on par with anything I was getting at the dispensary at 1/10 the cost. Right now my family has 2+ oz of fresh flower every week to smoke. And a different strain every week or two. If I find something I love I enjoy it and when it’s gone it’s gone. So what? That’s not always the case though. I ran a 5 pack of EZ Bake from Trilogene and they were all basically the same (structure, terp profile, potency, yield). Same thing with the Gelato og’s…. But like I’ve said before, my biggest complaint about autos has nothing to do with the plant it’s the people.

    • fictitiousflower

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      October 6, 2024 at 3:27 pm
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      Man that first grape deebo i grew blew my mind. The dispo weed here is pretty bad and i immediately realized i havnt seen even 1% of what this plant is capable of!

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