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[gro-mo_baggins]

All 5 of the Redhot cookies are getting beautiful purple and red colors , I’ve got 20ish plants in a 4×4 under a SF7000 dimmed at 50% vegging with an avg 1.1 VPD . I feed masterblend 3 part at around 800ppm every other dryback I water with dechlorinated PHd tap water at 6.5PH with great white added and 1 tsp of Epsom salt . They are in teee nursery pots on a “flood tray “. Did I get windburn on only that one node ? I also tried to do some kushman chiropractics at exactly that place so could I have just manhandled it? I haven’t been able to use the app since I couldn’t download the updated version so my grow is doing bad like a kid with no dad !!! Please help!!! 🙏🙏

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[ZoomyCat]

The pistils are really sensitive, it happens. I would not worry about it.

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[ZoomyCat]

Especially on the calyx like that, These will form to be bud sites but are still small and sensitive. Very easy to disrupt and have fall off.

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[gro-mo_baggins]

Someone just swore to me that I’d made a mistake and bought 100 auto flowers 😬 so it’s normal for mature VEGGING plants to throw pistils ? I’m switching the entire tent to flower tomorrow I just had to repot and let them rebound before switching them to flower , it’s only the redhot cookies showing white pistels / the orange area, but I have 2 that I topped that show no reproductive maturity yet 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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[ZoomyCat]

I’ve only grown autos so I can’t answer this. I just know its normal for me to accidentally knock pistils off or for those pistils to go orange before the rest of the plant.

Really with this plant unless you over stress and stunt the hell out of the plant… What doesn’t kill it makes it stronger. Bend the branch, it beefs up.

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[ohigrow]

If you haven’t initiated flower yet I’d also say those are autos, a week or so into flower.. Some veg longer which may explain the 2 that haven’t.. I have limited experience with photos but those I did grow didn’t start looking like that until I flipped to 12-12. @jmystro

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[gro-mo_baggins]

If I flip the light cycle to 12/12 and bump up the DLI will they survive with my photos ? I definitely didn’t intend to buy 100 autos 😬 the breeder self pollinated these I’m waiting for a response from them

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[jmystro]

Garbage genetics with no vigor is a double wammy. Autos flower based on time, not size.

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[vancerefridgeration]

been hearing about female photos looking like week 1-2 of flower.

right before I flipped to 1212 this time

It’s a wild hemp photo from Iowa I’m skeeting some zztop pollen on her and was like wooah auto! I know better tho knowing those specific feral populations for 15+ years I’ve introduced new genetics to them over the years, no Siberian tho. I’ve been asking around and it’s to totally possible to throw mature pistils in veg if the pot is too small and a couple other factors. It’s a trip tho looking week 3 as fuck ‘all Guy Fieri like’ the day before 1212 I was convinced someone made autos out of these. Time will tell. Thank you for posting!

• This reply was modified 12 months ago by  vancerefridgeration.

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[gro-mo_baggins]

I have had them in super small pots ,as I blew my budget on fancy stuff and ran out by the time they were ready to repot . They went from solo cups to square planters now they’re in tree nursery flex pots on a drain tray . I believe deep down this is what’s happened , the breeder also replied

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[ZoomyCat]

From what I’ve heard in doing research in breeding… Fast Flower = Semi-Auto. Basically its an auto breed that the plants did not display auto traits but kept the Photo genotype traits of flowering. But they did gain traits from the Ruderalis that allow them to flower faster in photo.

So basically you’ve got seeds that were made to be Autos but failed so they remarketted as fast flowering photo periods. But that fast flower is *because* of the Auto traits from the Ruderalis.

Just what my research leads me to believe, Fast flower = Semi-Auto = A photo bred with a Ruderalis not showing full auto traits every seed. If its fast flower it mostly shows photo traits but you know… Flowers faster due to ruderalis in there.

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[gro-mo_baggins]

The breeder has been pretty cool and responsive * I’ll post updates as they progress because I’m baffled 😬🤷‍♂️

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[ZoomyCat]

The silver spray is how they provide feminized seeds. Otherwise I’ve no real world experience in this other than the revelation I had and shared earlier about semi-auto and fast flowering seeds.

It sounds like what he is saying is in line with what I was saying as well that the plants that show auto traits get labeled autos and the ones that don’t but flower faster get labeled as fast flower, Both of those require a Semi-Auto that could produce phenotypes of each type and its not until you start solidifying further down the breeding line that you stabilize those traits through selective breeding.

I want to do breeding for personal reasons to find my own awesome cultivar with the effects that work best as a medicine. I happen to enjoy growing autos for various reasons but looking into it all has been quite complicated.

• This reply was modified 12 months ago by  ZoomyCat.

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