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[Unknown Member]

Hey growers, I am working with Sour Alien am interested in your opinion on which hybrids would be the most interesting to you. I will be making seeds from the plants going now that can make the following crosses.

Sour Alien X Thin Mint

Sour Alien X Mazar

Sour Alien X Pink Runtz

MAC X Pakistani

(MAC X Pakistani) X Sour Alien

(Mac X Pakistani) X Mazar

(MAC X Pakistani) X Thin Mint

What would you pick?

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[Nugwhisperer]

The ones that that broaden the terp profile of each other…..

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[Unknown Member]

That’s one thing to think about. I have to consider many more factors to really decide for myself. Considering Mazar has a unique Terpene profile dominant in linalool, and the vast majority of modern hybrids fall into three terpene profiles that are devoid of linalool, I would recommend the crosses with Mazar for that single consideration.

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[Nugwhisperer]

or maybe one has the cleanest high in the world but no flavour… currently it’s just names on a ‘sheet of paper’ haha

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[Unknown Member]

On the glowing screen they are names, but each brings something of its uniqueness to the mix. Bud density, plant size, trichome type, flavors. Mazar being true breeding, it’s easier to see its influence, but the other hybrids I’m using are not stable resulting in variation, so unpredictable, and harder to pin down their contributions.

I don’t know what you mean by clean high. Probably your description of what you personally like, but it’s such a subjective and vague description that it doesn’t communicate anything to me. I like different things depending on the situation or need. If I’m active or relaxing, naturally I would choose some cannabis type that fit well with what’s going on. I generally keep 5 or 6 unique types on the shelf. Once properly cured the smoke is clean and soft.

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[Nugwhisperer]

Have you grown all those possible choices yet? What I mean is pick the two that ‘might’ blend well together from your experience of their own positives. Also find one which is stable for the male choice imo

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[BuddyBranch]

Guessing you have a MAC Pak male, you could run the Mac Pak Mazar next to Mac Pak Alien and make a paralele line with the best of those two…. shshsh. Dont do it.

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[Unknown Member]

Yes, actually the Mac Pak is a male. I have 2 good males from the SourAlien who spontaneously bifurcated. I have stored Mazar pollen, and the Mazar female is making the seeds with the Mac Pak right now. I’m just waiting for the right Thin Mint males. Thin Mint expresses itself in two phenotypes since it’s the first hybrid generation of the cross, F1 hybrid. I want to use both phenotypes but we will see what nature provides.

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[Variant]

Very cool to see you working with Mazar!! Another nostalgic favorite! Where did you source it from?

• This reply was modified 1 month ago by  Variant.

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[Unknown Member]

Mazar is from north Afghanistan. It used to be that unique weed was named after the place it came from. I got this sample from a man who brought it out of Afghanistan in the 1960s. It has been kept pure and strong through decades of mindful selection in large scale grows, so it reliable and predictable. A true breeding IBL. It is not only my medicine, but a great help in learning about cannabis breeding. Its not the only stable true breeding strain I have, but it is what I am working with right now.

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[Thickems]

No mazar was created in the 80s. By a breeder from california, sourced from netherlands. It is that afghan crossed to skunk #1. It did not come from afghanistan. The silk road and hippie trail let that parent cross to the netherlands where a california breeder got ahold of it. This california breeder took the afghan to skunk and made mazar. Mazar is not a landrace.

• This reply was modified 4 weeks, 1 day ago by  Thickems.

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[Variant]

Ahh, bummer not the Mazar I was thinking of. I was thinking about the Mazar via the Dutch catalogs in the 90’s. At least that’s the era/version that holds the nostalgia for me.

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[Thickems]

Dutch passion seeds has them i believe.

https://dutch-passion.us/cannabis-seeds/mazar

dutch-passion.us

Buy Mazar Cannabis Seeds | Dutch Passion USA

Mazar is a robust Afghani Kush strain from the 1990's with thick, heavy buds and a pungent, earthy hash aroma. Available as photoperiod and regular seeds.

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[Nugwhisperer]

Yeah this was one of my first grows loool that or orangebud, can’t remember..maybe was both at the same time, would make sense haha.

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[Thickems]

I dont see the Mac or mazar being real. I would love to see your sourcing from capulator( the mac f1 cant be found anymore, i have a cross right now that is the closest thing). As well as a source of netherlands from the 80s for that mazar. Do you have this proof? Or your crosses are boof?

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[Unknown Member]

The cannabis in Mazar I Sharif has a long history tied to the people and culture that is centuries old. Famous hash. A commercial seed supplier saying its “their version” of Mazar and it’s a skunk hybrid is trying to rewrite history before your eyes to make a sale. Only the extremely gullible will be tricked by it.

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[Thickems]

You better learn to google better. Mazar is from an afghan parent.

https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/us/blog-mazar-an-indica-strain-with-central-asian-influences-n1565

royalqueenseeds.com

Mazar: An Indica Strain With Central Asian Influences - RQS Blog

Mazar I Sharif is an indica-dominant hybrid strain bred from Afghani landrace weed and Skunk. Click here to learn all there is to know about Mazar weed.

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[Unknown Member]

I will explain since it seems unfamiliar to you. Mazar or Balkhi is a unique chemovar. It has a unique and uncommon terpene profile, it has a specific taste and effects the same its had for centuries. And the plant has physical characteristics like it being huge, and the pistils that turn pink or red and the plant can turn red from anthocyanin production if it is exposed to cool temperatures in flowering.

It’s unique, unmistakable. I can tell right away if it’s real or not. Anyone can that knows it.

Also I can confirm data from publications from McPartland and Small, who’s measurements are dead on with mine.

But the topic is not me to come here to teach cannabis history, or talk about the deceptive marketing practices in the commercial business. Let’s talk about what you would personally like to let rip in your garden if you picked from those crosses. I’m stoked about the Sour Alien crossed with the MAC and Pakistani. I cant wait to see that.

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[Thickems]

Your mac isnt real either. Im very familiar with cap and when he made that, i talked to him about testing it before release. I have the closest thing to mac f1 right now, a starfighter cross. You aint got it i can promise you that. Thats a personal relationship you have no ties to.

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[Unknown Member]

Uh.. You were just saying Mazar was a hybrid from some commercial seed supplier made in the 1980s. It’s common knowledge that the cannabis grown at Mazar I Sharif goes way back in human history and was a part of their economy. Yet you know better because some generic seed supplier uses deceptive advertising that you fell for. Just like they knew you would. Easy money in exploiting the ignorant. I don’t agree with their business practices.

I don’t know who you may believe thinks of you as worth paying attention to, after writing that for us. But I know it’s not me. Feel free to chat about it with the others if you like.

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[Thickems]

I said nothing about a commercial seed supplier making it. A breeder from california sourced to netherlands and made it from a afghan parent. Dont try putting words in my mouth. Get you scams out this community!

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[Thickems]

And here you are still avoiding the miracle alien cookies. 🤡🤡🤡

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[toadbud]

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[Unknown Member]

Whoever that mass market supplier in the screenshot is, they say they skunked… something, and then try to pass of the hybrid named as the ancient cannabis strain. That is one option you can go with if you want. Go for it.

Centuries of farmers that knew their craft shaped the real Mazar, and that cannabis strain shaped a civilization. I got that one. Even the seeds measurements are confirming the data in publications by McPartland and Small. It tastes like roses and lavender with spicy chili all over your mouth like it has always tasted. The terpene profile is unique and unmistakable. The effects are unique. The pistils turn pink, it smells like roses in bloom during late flower. It’s my experience with it from which I am writing.

You can always choose the google results as your guide or whatever. Doesn’t really matter to me.

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