PH meter oddity… “Quantum PH”

  • PH meter oddity… “Quantum PH”

    Posted by lab_grade on October 2, 2024 at 7:33 pm

    I’m getting some water ready when I noticed my PH meters were being effected by the mere presence of my hand near them. it’s like quantum PH testing… or Schrodinger’s PH meter 😅Not really a grow question but figured you guys might get a kick out of it!

    ps yes I know I need to recalibrate them 😅

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    m1ghtym0u3e replied 2 months, 2 weeks ago 11 Members · 16 Replies
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  • growingcorners42

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    October 2, 2024 at 7:52 pm
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    My pen is fucked I think mine will lower then it will rise it doesn’t know where to stop it seems like I hate ph-ING water

  • bartmann

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    October 2, 2024 at 8:16 pm
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    Don’t buy the cheapest ph meters they usually last like a week lol but something $40 or more u should be good. I bought an hm brand on Amazon and has worked for about 5 years now

    • jmystro

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      October 3, 2024 at 8:02 am
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      5 years? I don’t believe that at all. They don’t last more than a year even if maintained properly. It’s lying to you at this point.

      • sunny

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        October 3, 2024 at 8:17 am
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        I’m looking at at least a solid four with my pH and probably seven years with my ppm. I maintain them impeccably, of course. I treat all my equipment as if I do not want to ever pay to replace it as I also enjoy testing the pH of my soil. I have other PH monitoring devices on my moisture meters, everything pretty much always says the same thing. So I’m going with it. Fact of the matter is… I use recharge. So I’m not stressing either way.

        • jmystro

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          October 3, 2024 at 11:35 am
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          I’ve used a bunch of different meters over the years and have come to one conclusion. Trash. When a bunch of replacement Bluelab Guardian probes were bad brand new, I threw it all away. They’ll lie (even after calibration) after about 6 months to a year. Test drops have never failed me. Thankfully I’ve always had them to test against digital meters.

          • sunny

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            October 4, 2024 at 8:15 am
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            OK, I do have a blue lab. But I also have drops for all of my fish tanks. So I am inspired to give it a little test and see where I’m at.

            • jmystro

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              October 5, 2024 at 12:40 pm
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              Instead of just saying digital meters are junk, I’ll explain why.

              pH probes have 2 electrodes, a glass measuring electrode and a reference electrode. The reference electrode has potassium chloride (neutral pH of 7) inside and has a specific amount of hydrogen ions. The glass electrode works by measuring the difference in pH between the reference electrode and a solution being tested. The probe must stay submerged in potassium chloride to allow ions to flow in and out. Over time, potassium chloride will leach out of the reference electrode causing the damn thing to lie even when showing proper calibration.

  • wrath420

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    October 2, 2024 at 8:33 pm
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    The Apera ph20 is a great ph meter for around $50.00 from Amazon but it’s on sale for $40.00 dollars right now and it comes with the calibration liquid and is really accurate and durable for the price! I bought mine in 2023 and it’s been working great since then and I usually calibrate it every few weeks or so and most of the time it’s just a .1 off!

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    • lettruckerstoke

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      October 2, 2024 at 9:48 pm
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      I got the whole kit and it’s been fantastic I’ve had it a couple months now it works phenomenally

  • jmystro

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    October 3, 2024 at 8:01 am
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    NEVER buy a digital pH meter. NEVER. Throw that shit in the trash and use test drops.

    • sunny

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      October 3, 2024 at 8:21 am
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      Oh, for god sake‘s calm down Grandpa. Don’t throw anything in the garbage guys. Sell it to a noob! Haaaa haaa

  • satori

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    October 3, 2024 at 11:09 am
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    Those vivo sun ph meters are junk. They calibrate to 6.83 and not 7. Where do you even get 6.83 calibration solution? The battery doesn’t stay in place and turn on and off in the middle of readings. Calibrate you pen monthly. I had a blue lab that costs over 100 and are very good but it went up after a long time and got a $40 one that is working just fine.

  • noah-og

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    October 3, 2024 at 1:01 pm
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    I bought a ph meter on Amazon that looked mid-way decent and it died right after I put it in the storage solution. Got it replaced and it lasted for like a week then also died. Went to using the drops which are slightly annoying and doesn’t feel fully accurate when the water isn’t clear, but have had a very happy looking grow so it can’t be off that much!

  • m1ghtym0u3e

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    October 5, 2024 at 4:58 pm
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    Another case of good gear ain’t cheap and cheap gear ain’t good. Use drops or get a ph20 or similar. If your in soil then maybe it’s not a big deal but in coco or hydro if any sort a few points can ruin your day. Also Vivosun is rebranded crap and their customer service is worse.

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