Piggy backing clones

  • Piggy backing clones

    Posted by stanm on June 10, 2025 at 10:17 am

    I took three clones off a Barney’s Farm Bubba Kush while in veg before flipping the plant to flower. All three are rooting and the plant they were cloned from is a female. I have only cloned one plant prior to this, grew it successfully and am still smoking it.

    My reference to piggy backing is basically cloning without a mother and keeping the genetic going. The seed was from one of three plants from my first grow in 2023. The donor of this clone is the plant I was thinking of revegging but I decided to stick with clones.

    By piggy backing I mean plant from seed then taking a clone from the resulting plants before flipping to flower. Basically just cloning from clones and keeping it going. My question, who else does this and how many clones were you able to take without noticing and adverse effects a year or so down the road.

    Here in Minnesota we have a four plants in veg and four in flower limit. I have a couple strains I’d like to keep going this way and sneak an auto or two in whenever I have an opening. The Barney’s Farm Bubba Kush was a hit with family and friends and it looks like I hit the jackpot and will have some more.

    I have two cultivars I’d like to keep going for sure, maybe three while leaving a spot open for variety. There is a Lemon strain from Colorado I got two seeds from as well. Might as well take the risk and pop one of those as well. It was called Lemon Stallion and checked off all of my daytime boxes.

    Littlelakephil420 replied 3 weeks, 3 days ago 9 Members · 18 Replies
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  • northernlightkind-nlk

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    June 10, 2025 at 10:37 am
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    No problem take’n clone from clone for years n years, just make shore that plant-health is on point when you take your clone.

    • stanm

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      June 10, 2025 at 1:40 pm
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      Thanks, it got off to a slow start on account of health issues but I’m feeling better now. It’s a healthy plant that was mixed in with a couple autos during veg so I was giving them preference. They’re in the drying tent so I was able to get back on the correct light schedule and give it preference. She is stretching nicely and I plan on up potting the clones as soon as another auto finishes in the 3×3.

      My garden planning amounts to me going through my seed collection while baked. “Mmmm, this one looks good, or maybe this one, or maybe one of these….”

      🤣

  • Scrog_Dog

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    June 10, 2025 at 10:45 am
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    Was cloning purple punch for like 5 years. Always turned out great. Last run of it was epic! DOH!! I didn’t get a clone this last round 😞 but will for sure I will run it and clone it again. One of my favs

    • stanm

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      June 10, 2025 at 1:32 pm
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      My wife likes to schedule vacations at the worst times so it’s only a matter of time before one slips through my fingers. If I can keep up with it family and friends love my Bubba.

      My son-in-laws band opened at First Avenue in Minneapolis about a year ago. My son and the band’s guitar tech had some of my samples. I guess it was kind of a hit (no pun intended). I like that kind of feedback, it keeps me growing.

  • Momo

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    June 10, 2025 at 10:48 am
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    I do it that way. I currently have three genetics running. All of which i have grown from seed and subsequently taken clones from.

    Now i’m not sure what you exactly mean by adverse effect. Genetic mutations, due to repeatedly taking clones from clones? So far i have not noticed any mutations and i still am cloning all three genetics from the the first seed.

    As of now i have gone down 4 generations of clones from clones and they’re all showing no mutations on leaves or stem growth. I also would love to know how far down you can go that way before running regularly into mutations or herms. But i don’t plan going down more generations, as i’m now producing seeds, feminized ones.

  • stanm

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    June 10, 2025 at 1:27 pm
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    I meant drop in potency mostly and anything else that might come up. I have done one clone from a WWXXL from Barney’s that was a total success through harvest. Thanks, the answers I have received are confirming what I wanted to hear.

    Piggy backing clones from vegging plants of favorite strains seems to be the best way to do this in my setup. Mine isn’t a typical perpetual grow from seed but more about keeping a couple favorites around.

  • rollin-fattys

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    June 10, 2025 at 1:59 pm
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    I practice this as well. Always make sure the cut is from a healthy source and you should not have a problem. Where I have seen more of a difference at times is between the plant from seed and the clone taken from it. I find not all clones flower out like the original plant. My practice now when hunting through seeds is to grow the plant from seed, take clones, kill off the original and grow the clones out to flower. I learned this from listening to breeders that have been in the game since the 90’s. And from what I’ve seen it makes sense.

    • stanm

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      June 11, 2025 at 8:34 am
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      Thanks! I should be able to adapt to whatever they throw at me. If things go south I can always end the experiment. My grow schedule is more about reacting to the plants than any grand plan. When a space opens on the veg tent I make a last minute decision. Sometimes it’s another photo, sometimes an auto I’m itching to try.

  • BuddyBranch

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    June 10, 2025 at 2:21 pm
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    Stan tha Man!, its all about timing, i have done a few things similar but not «clone to clone» or Piggy Backing...by the way i like that expression, you probably wont take enough off the plant to damage the genetic heritage through over pruning the plant you want to flower...with all parameters at scale of homegrowing...you are smart enough to undderstand also that a damaged plant, should not be cloned, but if it grows back to full health rapidly, even then you wont lose to muchgenetic strenghton the long term, some srtains can go piggy backing for a decade and others wont do much more than two years, it would be long to describe the potencial differences, but if other growers have succesfully grown a «branch» many years... it will be known, the main problem you may encounter is the plants will be two months old before you flip, and that mihght be to much time...if you prune just for size maintenance you may attract problems and if youtry to slow down growth...witch i recomend, but that might also be attracting problems..weak limbs, disease ect.. Keep up the growinpops. Hope your health is hanging tough!

    • Momo

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      June 11, 2025 at 6:49 am
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      With a stable, healthy genetic you can go on for more then a decade clone to clone?

      That’s more then i expected, even two years is remarkable!

      • stanm

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        June 11, 2025 at 8:06 am
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        Thanks, I will be 74 in a couple months so my seed collection could last me the rest of my life. Kind of a morbid thought over morning coffee but I’m cheap by default.

        • Momo

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          June 11, 2025 at 8:30 am
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          You go Stan…love ya m8 !!! You sure have good sense of humor…thanks for a good laugh and a interessting topic!

          • stanm

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            June 11, 2025 at 8:35 am
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            I try to be an adult but haven’t mastered it yet.

  • Terptwerptwinz

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    June 10, 2025 at 3:14 pm
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    Any way to get a friend or relative to get authorization to grow and have a bigger plant count or become a caregive???? Example.. I am a caregiver for my wife so i can have twelve plants in each stage now, it is definitely worth it in helping take some of the pressure off!!

    • stanm

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      June 11, 2025 at 8:09 am
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      I don’t struggle with the plant count and Minnesota doesn’t have a caretaker program. I love growing and messing around with plants. That’s what’s keeping me going in retirement.

  • jmystro

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    June 10, 2025 at 4:29 pm
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    Aside from environment, never let your plants get rootbound at any point for long term viability.

  • Littlelakephil420

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    June 11, 2025 at 9:37 pm

    I have a plant i call SMASHED CAKE is a seed that was basically a bag seed. It’s an amazing plant ready to grow. Heavy harvest of down right hard oily buds that smell like a rash covered with gear oil. I’ve cloned it 45 times. And I think it just gets better. I have s nice harvest to do tomorrow….. good luck.

    • Littlelakephil420

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      June 11, 2025 at 9:38 pm

      I really should learn to proof read.. lol

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