please help me diagnose my little plantbaby

  • please help me diagnose my little plantbaby

    Posted by kloink on December 9, 2024 at 11:03 am

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    A few Days ago i noticed that my seedling grows slower then before, and the lower leafs got a bit yellow.

    I thought it would be a lack of nitrogene and gave her some extra, but now 2-3 days later it seems to have not a effect.

    Even worse, i noticed this brown dot on that one leaf… and it seems not to grow at all anymore.

    What could it be?

    I normaly water once a week, but maybe i overwatered it when i gave it the nitrogene flush?

    but it was only about half a liter water with a nitrogene fertilizer in it.

    The plant is in the same soil like my other plant, and i have no problems there.

    surfdad_grows replied 2 weeks, 4 days ago 13 Members · 23 Replies
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  • jmystro

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    December 9, 2024 at 11:30 am
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    This plant is needing more food. It’s currently being underfed.

  • snowyninja

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    December 9, 2024 at 3:58 pm
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    Check your ph and then your ppm/ec?

    That will tell you what you need to know.

    If she’s underfed the numbers won’t lie

  • purp-terp-pheno-god

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    December 9, 2024 at 9:19 pm
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    Not sure where you got that soil but it looks like not very good quality. I would get them out of there ASAP and into some decent soil. Even if you feed that thing, I doubt that soil will be enough to maintain it. Could be wrong. But she is definetly hungry

    • cajunman

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      December 10, 2024 at 4:59 am
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      👍

    • kloink

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      December 10, 2024 at 6:37 am
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      its kind of every time i post a image, people dont like my soil. Ok, Ok, got it. 😅

      But honestly, i have no idea what good soil should look like. 😇

      maybe you can give me a better idea. for what should i look when getting a good soil?

      the soil i use is very fluffy and a bought mixture from soil, fibers and a little bit of clay. its well draining, but also holds the moisture a little bit longer then just coco.

      thats what i was looking for as newbie to prevent rootrot, was that wrong?

      sadly over here in germany we are so new to the growing market that all this stuff, like recharge and spezial soils are still a very expensiv thing, if even to be found anywhere… ^^

      • purp-terp-pheno-god

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        December 11, 2024 at 9:12 am
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        It’s kinda hard to tell a new grower what decent soil is. You just have to get known decent soils and compare the texture, smells, water holding capacity, etc. That looks to be top soil with a BUNCH of wood chips. Wood chips easily get mold.

        I suggest Fox Farm Ocean Forest. It’s the most commonly available soil to most people. Roots 707, buildasoil coots mix kit, KIS Organics water only kit, Fox Farm happy frog, Coast of Maine stonington blend, Indicanja, and tons of others. Just a quick list of stuff that is decent. Buildasoil has a nice coots mix that you can mix up yourself with just a bale of peat. Hopefully this helps.

      • ZoomyCat

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        December 12, 2024 at 1:51 am
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        I think people are more just expecting a coco, perlite, worm castings mixture.

  • downsouthlongmont

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    December 9, 2024 at 11:26 pm
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    I immediately thought of lock out. Some Recharge to add mycorrhizal.

  • kloink

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    December 10, 2024 at 1:36 am
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    ok thank you all.

    How can i make a “safe” emergency repotting? should i try to get most of the old soil of from the roots, or should i try to keep it as intact as possible in a bigger portion of the old soil?

  • wrath420

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    December 11, 2024 at 6:52 am
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    The soil looks like some miracle grow organic outdoor garden soil that I bought for my mom’s flower bed a few years ago! I would recommend a peat moss or coco coir based soil if you can find them locally!

    • whohitaskunk

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      December 11, 2024 at 11:41 am
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      Get Grow dots it will solve your problems!!!’

      • guyrandom

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        Brando “it’s got what plants crave”

  • simeon

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    When looking at your soil check the back of the bag and be aware of what it is made of. “Good soil” should contain a base of either coco coir or peat(or a combination of the two), something for aeration like perlite or pumice or rice hulls or even vermiculite, and lastly look at the sources of organic matter which should make up the last 1/3 of the mix. The organic matter can be all kinds of things from worm castings, compost, various other amendments that brings in the NPK and micronutrients, as well as microorganisms into the mix. Biochar would be a great bonus as well.

    If you are using synthetic nutrients consider using just Coco-coir with pumice(or perlite,rice hulls, vermiculite ) and a microbial inoculant

  • kloink

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    December 25, 2024 at 12:09 am
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    Thank you all again for your suggestions. i repottet her twice since then aand now i got my personal little cristmas miracle… shes still alive and got a few pretty new leaves 🙂

    still not the best soil, but i work on it. 😉

    (and yes it still looks bad, but i want to keep her as mascot no matter the harvest.. ^^)

    what would you say:

    should i leave the lower leaves on, wich have crispy tips, or take them of too?

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 4 days ago by  kloink. Reason: still looks bad..^^
    • ZoomyCat

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      No removal, you have pests though. That is what those spots are. You need to do some IPM for your plant 😉

      Good on your for sticking through, that is how we learn the most!

      • ZoomyCat

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        December 25, 2024 at 1:47 am
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        I said no removal but never really explained myself as to why so I’ll do it in a reply to myself. Even if those leaves have a little bit of browning on the tips, they are still the plants main source of photosynthesis so until the plant has bigger branches that overshadow the rest of the plant the purpose of those leaves is to generate energy for the little budding branches you see.

        The pests on your plant want nothing more but for you to create a point of entry for them to be able to attack the vitality of the plant easier. I personally think of removing parts of the plant when in this state as kind of like if I were to cut my hand and put it in shark infested waters. No good will come of it.

        If I were to guess what type of pest you have there – I’m no expert here but… Probably the starts of spider mites 😣 I’m sorry to be the bearer of that bad news but at least you can conquer it early now that you know!

        Merry Xmas!

    • ZoomyCat

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      December 25, 2024 at 12:18 am
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      I’m going to take things to extreme here in an example. You bumped your arm and have a bruise – Do we remove it? 😛

      • kloink

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        December 25, 2024 at 12:50 pm
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        do you mean these white dots?

        they seem to be in the leaf, i cant rub it of or something.

        didnt found any mites or bugs so far, what should i look for?

        • kloink

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          December 25, 2024 at 1:05 pm
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          after a second look… 🤦‍♂️

          i guess i found some. at least i found some tiny black dots… but shoulnd they move and crawl around?

          my mites seem to sleep…😂

          and merry xmas too ^^

          • ZoomyCat

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            December 25, 2024 at 1:28 pm
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            Spots and gouges in your leaves are often pest based. If it looks like little silver channels its thrips.

            A friend told me that it was possible for pests to carry diseases or fungus on them to introduce it to your plants. I run autos so I’m very wary about harming my plants via defoliation and creating vectors of entry. Also those wounds sure put off the smell. You defoliate and all the plant juices get in the air and will attract more pests if your variety has smells that those pests like.

            Mine puts off smells that the boxelder beetles seem to love. I’m constantly doing physical surveying for them on my flowering plant.

  • ZoomyCat

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    December 25, 2024 at 1:14 pm
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    It is just every time I’ve seen dots like this online someone says spider mites. They eat and damage the leaves and prevent photosynthesis and eventually will web up the plant and make it non-smokeable.

    I’m one for using nature to fight the pests and I’d go with some predatory mites in this situation, Which also work to combat thrips. My local grow store has little staked packets that I can put in my soil and then the pests are magically gone.

    I like the organic solutions 😀

  • sunny

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    December 25, 2024 at 1:26 pm
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    Do you feel the urge to scratch a lot?

  • surfdad_grows

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    Thrips got me with those markings. The identifier if you have iPhone and get a clear enough picture will tell you what you have it you can see the very small rice shaped bugs lol (whitish) moving on top and under your leaves. If you see that you’ll see them crawling by the veins.

    That’s just my experience.

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