Repotting vs Using A Bigger Media Container

  • Repotting vs Using A Bigger Media Container

    Posted by Smokalottapotamus on December 22, 2024 at 12:13 am

    What’s up everyone? If you didn’t already know, I’m just about ready to start my first grow and still have questions that pop up in my head throughout the day. This latest one being the pros & cons of repotting your seedling 🌱 from a solo cup or even a 1 gal.(or similar container) to a bigger 3-5 gallon media container VS just starting in that 3-5 gallon container and not have to worry about repotting. I know too big of container and the roots will have trouble finding nutrients & too small of container will leave you root bound. I’ve head of people starting in 5 gal. buckets and having success but I wanted to gather all of your guys’ opinions and thoughts on the matter. Thanks DGC fam!

    ‘POTamus OUUT ✌🏼

    flowerpower replied 2 weeks, 3 days ago 11 Members · 22 Replies
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  • surfdad_grows

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    December 22, 2024 at 12:17 am
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    I started from seed in 1gal and transplanted to 5gal. Definitely have to wait till after topping 2 weeks and you’ll be good. Use a rooting hormone when you transplant, makes a world of a difference.

    • Smokalottapotamus

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      December 22, 2024 at 12:26 am
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      Thanks for the tip! Very much appreciated 🙏🏼

      • surfdad_grows

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        December 22, 2024 at 12:30 am
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        I let mine get a bit big about double what they should have been. My shoots after topping were big. Granted I vegged 10weeks. Never again lol.

  • ZoomyCat

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    December 22, 2024 at 12:41 am
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    I did Aerogarden Sprouts and then transplanted when it was a seedling transitioning into veg. If I was to do a germination, Provided this is an auto I’d go right into the final bucket and as the seedling gets larger you slowly spread the water you give it further.

  • Sasquatch

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    December 22, 2024 at 12:48 am
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    I use the rule from another grower, Plant in their final bucket. I plant into 5 gal buckets and use the same soil thru 2 grows with boost of nutrients in second grow. No problem yet with 5 gal buckets. Plus its an easy flush with so much media if problems occur. Just my opinion as I’m new to this too.

    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by  Sasquatch.
    • Smokalottapotamus

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      December 22, 2024 at 1:17 am
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      Thanks for your input! I was really hoping I’d hear from someone that planted in 5gal straight from germ. so I could ask how they held up and how the yield was.

      • Sasquatch

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        December 22, 2024 at 1:24 am
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        I made a cone of shame for the seedling and watered around the outsides until roots were established. 1 out of 5 seeds I was able to keep alive. Don’t think the genetics are very good. Fast Buds seedling is thriving though.

  • simeon

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    December 22, 2024 at 3:10 pm
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    Definitely depends on whether you are running Autos or Photoperiod seeds.

    I personally like to up pot. Start in a small container, Solo cups are great. Then to a 1 gal, and my final pots for flower are 20 gallon pots. I go from the 1 gal to the 20 gals with great success.

    A big part of this is going to be experimenting with different methods and figuring out what works for you and your grow. There’s no reason you can’t start in a large pot and never transplant, though the biggest issue there is going to be watering correctly for the stage of growth the plant is in .

    • ZoomyCat

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      December 24, 2024 at 5:20 pm
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      Agree with it depending on Photoperiod or Auto. I also think the type of pot you have to use is a factor too. I would think those air-pots are probably the easiest. I do not own them. I just drill holes in buckets so I go with the final planter size. But I could see how it would be useful to put the smaller size into the larger size. Take off the outside of the smaller pot and then move the root mass off to the side and take out the smaller bottom plate. Then just rough up the outside of the soil section so you have a cylinder root mass with proper aeration. I’d guess that the medium compacted into each divot ends up with Aeration issues over time but it would be interesting to know if this is true or not. then I’d think you just fill the outer planter while making sure you’re not burying the plant. you might need to put some medium at the bottom first or something.

      That’s how I’d do it if it was a photo period and using those air-pots as an example of the pot changing it. With a bucket you would have to lift the plant and entire root/soil mass out and I’m not so sure going from anything other than a nursery pot or solo cup is going to be something where you don’t mess with the root ball of the plant and its progress.

  • mrtimbobway

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    December 24, 2024 at 2:23 pm
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    I start in a solo cup, to a one gallon, to a three or a five. By doing that, you have less of a chance of overwatering. It’s easy to overwater a seedling in a 5 gallon. This being your first grow, you might enjoy time with your plants and learn from each transplant. Planting directly into a 5 gallon might be kinda boring waiting for it to fill out.

  • wraiths1

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    December 25, 2024 at 5:43 am
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    I been gardening for a long time and ALL the greenhouse’s up pot their plants for ALL plants. For some reason it promotes betting rooting. I figure it’s a plant so why not. It does keep me from overwatering which is one of the biggest problems for seedlings. Fresh oxygenated water is what they want, a big pot will hold more water than the seedlings can use. Of course this PHOTO not autos.

    autos I start in a peat pots the 41/2 in size cut the bottom and tape to hold in place let sprout and when it’s time to move I set the peat pot in the final container. After taking the bottom off the pet pots.

    The big thing I get from this is overwatering prevention. That’s my 2 cents.

  • backyard-boogie

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    January 1, 2025 at 7:51 pm
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    Hey bro, I just heard your question come up on the dgc show. Sounds like you got an ac infinity 2×4 set up jacked from your front door, I’m sorry to hear that. That’s actually my favorite set up to grow in.

    Anyway i used to do the seed In paper towel method and drop that into a solo cup and wait to see it pop up then transplant into 2 or 3 gal then into its final flowering pot. Never finished in anything less then 7 gals. Now days I’m over doing all that, buying mycos to sprinkle on the root ball to help through transplant shock and all waiting for it too look like she’s rebounded nicely and then flipping to flower. Geez just seemed like a waste of time and $ on different sized pots soils dry amendments and mycos.

    Now days I’m putting 3 #10 wide or #15 tall pots in my 2×4 and popping the seed right into the medium with a clear solo cup or 4″ dome over it to retain moisture in the medium to germinate my seeds. Usually 3-4 days she pops up. First watering I just use bottled water, after I see her up and she’s due for water hit her with a recharge solution.

    I love this method because your not going to end up root bound if you don’t get to transplanting at a good time and stunting growth or waiting for her to rebound after a trans plant. 3- # 15 tall narrow pots in my 2×4.

    • Smokalottapotamus

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      January 1, 2025 at 9:03 pm
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      Thanks man! Yeah it really sucked the holiday spirit right out of me. Not sure when I’ll be able to get it replaced. Thanks for the info on what works best for you though! I’m definitely going to be using the solo cup and then probably move it to a 3gal. Still unsure if I want to run autos or not.. since I’d be able to have more than 1 auto going at time in the same tent.

      • Sasquatch

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        January 3, 2025 at 3:59 pm
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        I was watching when they dropped the horrible news bro! Are you responsible or are they going to replace it?

        • Smokalottapotamus

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          January 3, 2025 at 5:22 pm
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          I’m responsible for it. It’ll probably be quite some time before I’m able to replace it. Definitely the last time I ever order anything close to that price online around the holidays! Might just have to DIY something and pray that it’ll work out.

          • Scotty Real

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            January 3, 2025 at 5:35 pm
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            Hey man send me the details, like order # and stuff. I’m gonna call over there and see if i can pull a favor. I have no idea how receptive they’ll be, but send me the info to scotty@dudegrows.com and let me see what I can do. Absolutely no promises…but I’ll give it a go. They’re pretty awesome to the DGC over there. Thanks for being DGC and don’t let this ruin your holiday!

            • Smokalottapotamus

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              January 3, 2025 at 5:44 pm
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              I’ve been in touch with Dude & I believe he has reached out to them. We will see where things go from there 🤞🏻

            • Sasquatch

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              January 4, 2025 at 2:24 am
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              Wow, what a stand up group on DGC! We’ll keep praying for a positive end to all this pirating nonsense! Thanks to @scottyreal for looking out for the DGC Family!

          • Sasquatch

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            January 4, 2025 at 2:26 am
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            If nothing gets done, let me know, I got a lump sum coming up and I’ll pitch in to help replace it. Keep me updated and we’ll do what we can! ❤

            • Smokalottapotamus

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              January 4, 2025 at 4:18 am
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              This community is TRULY something special! I never would’ve expected anything like this from anyone. Just goes to show our roots run deep here! Much ❤️ & dank nugs!

  • budwinjones

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    January 4, 2025 at 7:48 am
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    Controversial opinion here maybe:

    When I had my greenhouses (ornamental not medical) we would root-bound plants and “up-pot” to control the plant size, footprint, and how much media we were forced to use (we want the pots filled with roots not expensive media). The transfer would also stress the roots and slow growth which I wanted. I wanted little cheap to care for plants that would put on some size when they were someone elses problem to care for. I never looked at “up-potting” as beneficial to the plant but more of a precision stress technique to control size and the amount of food I had to give them.

    In my medical garden I’ll direct sow in my final pot with a 10″ outdoor humidity dome (Amazon) over the seed site. You really have to remember to water the plant size and not the container in this situation.

  • flowerpower

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    January 4, 2025 at 11:12 am
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    Depends on what ur growing. If ur growing photos upoting works great. Sprinkling those roots with some micorrizae at transplant and a bath of recharge….Bam, ur off.

    I start my photos in a specific size pot , (about a quart) as this pot fits my humidity dome perfectly. Afer around the 5th node in the 20 gal they go. Pot size is also according to veg time. I can carry a healthy plant for 12 weeks in a 20 with minimal effort…Yes I’m lazy.

    Keep in mind Veg time can also depend on many factors: Strain, Grow tecniques, Plant Size you want, recovery Time from training, or from mistakes LOL.

    If ur growing autos, I would be careful. I start ’em in their final homes. I grow in living soil so autos get 10 gals. It is said that an auto’s tap root can trigger flower if it bottoms out. IDK, but I don’t take the chance.

    If ur late on transplant u may end up with a stunted plant that triggered too early. I do sometimes transplant autos, but the timing of anything with autos is extremely important. Success or failure is only a short time away.

    If this is your first grow I would hold off on the autos untill you get your environment and technique dialed in. Photos are more forgiving…Autos are not.

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