[melonfarmer]

Isn’t calcium sulphate just gypsum? I use it a fair bit mixed in with my living soil and as an amendment. But be careful not to overdo it by double up with other calcium products. It can be antagonistic.

[melonfarmer]

There are lots of other sulphates too. But I don’t know if increasing sulphates alone with increase thiols in the plant, maybe it will. But I’d be more focused on providing a balanced diet, keeping healthy plants and keeping them cool during the drying process.

[Thickems]

Is your coco buffered? And agreed with melonfarmer, i use gypsum in small doses with my living soil.

[Thickems]

What thiols you focusing? What is your goal? In early stages i do all kinds enzymes, help boost those metabolites. Before flower i will do lipoic and amino acids to help with stresses and that switch, even the drought possible of them drinking more. I have never really used it as a focus on calcium, more a way to keep the metabolism going.

[jmystro]

Thiols are sulfur compounds but sulfur, like all the essential elements, has a limit to how abundant it can be (about 80 PPM) before it antagonizes other elements in a solution/medium. You’re not going to induce a plant to produce particular compounds you want. Skunk chemotypes are produced by certain plants, not by anything a grower is doing.

[digdugprime]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

Yes it’s gypsum.

I understand how thiols and terpenes work and am not trying to force a non skunky strain to be skunky, just skunkier.

I understand the concerns with calcium which is why I specifically mention that I use Nectar for the Gods. I have a greater concern to how it will behave in a NftG grow because of their line being entirely calcium based, even the pH up is calcium based, which is important because with NftG you usually have to bring pH back up.

Also, yes I use buffered canna coco that I also treat with a small amount of compost tea and SLF100 and let sit for a few weeks prior to mixing in actual nutrients and using.

I believe using a calcium based sulfur source will behave best in this case, but would be open to other options… Just concerned about how they might play with things, as using regular pH up in NftG will cause you to rapidly create an excess of P and K in the soil.

• This reply was modified 2 weeks, 4 days ago by  digdugprime.

[digdugprime]

Absolutely love how I get responses the first day, but when I answer the questions you guys ask I get no response.

[Thickems]

I believe it was answered. You wont change a plants genetics. And sulphur, calcium, other nutrients you need to watch how much you add. It can get a reverse affect if overdone.

• This reply was modified 1 week, 1 day ago by  Thickems.

[digdugprime]

Then why did you ask if I use buffered coco? If you pay attention to the original question I’m asking if anyone thinks this is the way to increase sulfur in a calcium chelated nutrient line. No one has mentioned any potential chemical interactions between gypsum and calcium chelated nutrients except to say that it might increase calcium. Everything people have said is common sense and basic general knowledge, but is there anyone else that uses a calcium based line on here?

[Thickems]

Thiols, sulfur hydrogen, you want to use a sulfur to incease them? Gypsum will give plenty of calcium, not understanding what interaction you want there. Im not fully understanding your exact goal as far as in the ending? Do you want to change the plant? Not making sense to me. You have a calcium based line why not use a magnesium sulfate instead of another calcium base? Everyone is saying about it being to much, and you know that.

[digdugprime]

Finally, this is the first post with any information I was looking for. You could have just suggested magnesium sulfate from the beginning. My concerns should be obvious, will gypsum increase the calcium too much or chemically alter things in a calcium based line. Secondly what about magnesium sulfate as you suggested, would it have any adverse chemical reactions?

[Thickems]

All depends the levels you use. I use kieserite over epsom salt. The organic aspect. Im full no till living soil.

[Thickems]

The epsom salt needs oxidised and slow release. It only needs about a fifth of what your calcium levels need to be.

[Thickems]

A healthy plant, in the correct feeding, with proper enviroment will give you the best results. The dry and cure will really give the extra.

[digdugprime]

When did I ask for this information? I’m not looking for plants 101… If i didn’t know this already why would you be asking the questions I asked?

[Thickems]

Because you want to increase a genetic to something it isnt. Building up levels will back fire. Push the plant to the edge but keep it happy. That 1 dose to much you lose your peak thiols. Is the plant deficient? Do you just need better genetics? Will you argue this till you get the answers you want, instead of the stuff people already told you? You seem like you are going to do what you want anyway, so why ask? Just go experiment

[Sir Coughs A Lot]

[digdugprime]

I never said I want to make it something it isn’t… Just increase what it already has.

[Thickems]

A healthy plant is going to give you that. Its already producing what it is made of.