Transplant shock and foliar recommendations

  • Transplant shock and foliar recommendations

    Posted by melonfarmer on November 17, 2024 at 3:52 pm

    Hi crew, I’m having an issue with transplanting. I’m pretty sure I understand the problem but I need help with a solution.

    I veg in 1L fabric pots with coco/perlite, worm castings and a few dry amendments, and I feed Megacrop 1 part (free samples last me like a year so it’s basically free nutes) at around 1200-1500EC and pH around 6.

    Then they go into a living soil bed. As long as the plants are small they transplant without a hiccup but the bigger more root bound plants really struggle.

    My theory is that they just suck the coco dry within a day and then suffer from a hot pocket where the bulk of the root mass is before they can spread into the bed where the moisture is kept even with blumats.

    I’ve realised the trick is to plant earlier, before they get rootbound.

    This round I have 4 Sour Deisel (Nirvana I think) from seed and 1 Delahaze clone. The SD are fine but the Delahaze is looking a little rough.

    Can someone help me with maybe a foliar prescription or any other advice or comments to keep my bigger plants healthy in the situations where I have no small plants ready to go?

    Thanks so much.

    MelonFarmer

    melonfarmer replied 4 weeks, 1 day ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • twistedup

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    November 17, 2024 at 6:54 pm
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    dial ur light back for a few days, also you could foliar with kelp

    extract but go easy with it, good luck ,nice grow.

    anybody else have any thoughts

    • melonfarmer

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      November 18, 2024 at 12:12 am
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      I’ll hit them with some light fish and kelp in a day or two, I just did an IPM spray today.

      The lights are 730w but only on 30% atm and they are hung high. They did come from under flourescents so maybe that could be contributing.

      Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll let you know how I go.

  • simeon

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    November 18, 2024 at 7:26 pm
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    Would breaking up the root ball help at all? That might encourage them to spread out in the new space and maintain the proper moisture in the root zone, since it’s not a compact ball of roots and hard to moisten substrate.

    • melonfarmer

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      November 18, 2024 at 10:45 pm
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      Hey, thanks for the reply. In theory I agree with you, but since they’ve been in fabric pots since clones the roots are fully branched out and not wrapping around at all. So I’m not sure if I can break it up much more. I’ll try dig up some photos to show you what I mean.

    • melonfarmer

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      November 18, 2024 at 10:55 pm
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      Plastic vs fabric. About the same size and age.

      You may already know this but for anyone else reading, the ramen noodle roots look good but the root tip is where all the action is and fabric pots air prune and create branching roots.

      In the case of the plastic potted plants I was able to break up the root ball but the fabric pot plant was like a dense sponge.

      • simeon

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        November 19, 2024 at 9:16 am
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        Ah, my bad, I just assumed they had been in plastic pots previously.

        • melonfarmer

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          November 19, 2024 at 2:19 pm
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          All good brother. It was a good suggestion.

  • simeon

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    November 19, 2024 at 2:45 pm
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    Oddly enough I just listened to a video from Harley Smith on propagation… and in it he address accelerating root growth. Apparently a foliar spray of 5 parts humic acid and 2 parts kelp extract with a little wetting agent causes exponential root growth. Can be used as a root drench as well. Thought it was worth sharing given the timing of this thread.

    He was speaking more in terms of germination and cloning but I don’t see how it wouldn’t be a worth while practice as part of a transplant regimen. Definitely going to try it myself.

    • melonfarmer

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      November 21, 2024 at 9:37 pm
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      Hell yeah, I’ll try that. I reckon if I can get the roots to spread out more then things above ground will fall into place.

  • flowerpower

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    November 20, 2024 at 6:52 am
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    Of course transplanting earlier would help. First lets try to acclimate your girls by starting them off with your light dialed down, (around 600 PPFD). Slowly turn em up in about 200 PPFD increments over a two week period.

    You may also prune your roots, and loosen them up a little. Sprinkle them with some mycorrhizae. I use “Great White”, or “Mycos”.

    I seldom use foliar sprays, but when I do I use thrive from build a soil. This is already formulated with kelp, and fish stuff.

    Last but not least, give ’em some recharge. I often water in with Aloe to add a rooting hormone, and increase the plants resistance to disease. If you use aloe make sure the Aloe Vera you harvest is from a sexually nature plant.

    Smaller plants get the Aloe, bigger plants get the recharge.

    Good luck, I hope I have been helpful.

    • melonfarmer

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      November 21, 2024 at 9:35 pm
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      Thanks very much. The lights are low and I soaked the bed with aloe before transplant. I hit it with a little Super Thrive I had kicking around and I think it’s starting to get better. Not sure if that’s because of the Super Thrive or just growing into the bed. Greatly helpful. Thanks.

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