Welcome to the show… Time to learn to grow.

  • Welcome to the show… Time to learn to grow.

    Posted by burnme420 on November 26, 2024 at 6:57 pm

    So I am on my first run. It has been a roller coaster; spider mites, nutrient burn, light burn. I would really just like to be laughed at, and told I’m a noob because man did I biff this. But I am a glutton for punishment, and now that I have the two plants almost done, I was able to split out a bunch of clones that I will be doing three different pot sizes on as a experiment (5g, 3g, and solo). So honestly if you pros see something that I have to stop, don’t hesitate to say.

    I do 60% coco, 20% soil, 20% perlite. The root ball is started in solo cups with 100% soil. I am working on my nutrient scheme. I am using Masterblend Tomato/Calcinite/Epsoms as a super diluted, 25% solution (because full strength caused the burn), but I am not staying with this, it doesn’t work well for this purpose I think.

    Here is what I have:

    Critical (Critical Mass); Age 72 days; Veg 35 days from seed; Flower Phase: 5 Wks 2 Days

    Projected Maturity: 2-4 wks

    Issues: Major Light burn, all the fans leaves crinkled and were removed. Seems spindly, not very beefy branches.

    Mystery Strain (aka Richie Rich): Age 112 Days; Veg 75 days (poor clone, mites), Flower Phase: 5 Wks 2 Days

    Projected Maturity: ? 4wks
    Issues: The mother was given to me, but turned out overrun with mites, I cloned off a piece, and it got mites, so I fought them. The clone took forever to root, and establish, but one it did, it took off. It looks okay, and it religiously scanned for issues, but the buds are getting frosty and it smells super fruity.

    Thank you for any thoughtful input you can lend to this very eager padawan learner.

    zoomycat replied 2 weeks, 2 days ago 8 Members · 9 Replies
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  • ddubya04

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    November 26, 2024 at 8:16 pm
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    Your next grow will be much better. Don’t over do anything. And definitely don’t do whatever you did to that plant to any others.

  • burny

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    November 26, 2024 at 9:21 pm
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    Cheers!!

    I make a coco based soil for my autopots grow. Be careful with calciunite in coco. Good coco is buffered with large amounts of calcium nitrate, so adding more calcium to coco can cause alot of issues. I have had success using langbeinite (sol-po-mag). This adds sulfur, potassium, and magnesium into your coco based soil instead of epsium salt. That’s my 2 cents. Peace love and smoke.

  • backwoods_mountain_grower

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    November 27, 2024 at 3:09 pm
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    What size light do you have on them? Also you didn’t mention any thing about temp or humidity of your tent

  • burnme420

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    November 27, 2024 at 7:33 pm
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    Thanks to everyone for taking a look. I tend to give too much info, so I was trying not to overdo, for flower I have a 450 watt 3000k / red LEDs (off-brand SCHLUX), canopy runs 700-900 ppfd (w/ Photone) , it gets super hot though, and raises the tent temps. I typically run 75-85F and 45% humidity (w/ a humidifier set to keep it at 45%), in the warm months is it ambient 70-90% but in winter it is ambient 30-50%.

    I run a carbon filter inside exhausting to a fan and out, and a tower fan that oscillates on low constantly.

    For veg I have another area where I use a rig I built with SCHLUX 5000K light bars, 60 watt x 6 @ 18″-24″. The crazy thing about this is it cost about $80 for a 360 watt 2×4 running with an almost identical spectrum to normal lights, runs with way less heat, and the par map is 600-800 at 18″. I grow dwarf tomato bushes with the same light with no issue (I also grow lettuce and radish with just two of these light bars with great success, I have a shelf with two bars rigged to each level). I am seeing 35 days from seed/good clone to an 18″ plant I LST to 10-15 tops and then send to veg (or that is how the last three months have played out).

    In the photo here is an early setup where I have Kale in the left, and radish on the right, and some clones that failed when I found out peep pods don’t work well for clone , but its a good example for those light bars. The big rig has no space between the light bars so the intensity doesn’t fall.

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  • flowerpower

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    December 1, 2024 at 1:09 am
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    They look awful lanky to me. I see Lollipop, LST? What’s your light source? You may need a full spectrum light. Where do they get their nutes? They look like they streched awful hard. I haven’t had any plants that were so tall, but that could be a good thing. Spider mites…how did u get rid of them? I wouldn’t take clones from a spider mite mom unless they were COMPLETELY eradicated.

    • burnme420

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      December 1, 2024 at 4:28 pm
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      I top them at +5 nodes, and then started LST. The main issue I am seeing is the buds are really small. I know I light burned them with keeping them at 12″ from the light, changed that to 18″ in week 4, and they seemed to stop burning. I am using MasterBlend Tomato for nutes, but I plan on changing that in the next run.

      I beat the mites with Exile Potassium Salt Soap Foliar Spray which is good upto day before harvest. Took about 10 days, and I sprayed every 3 days to the point where the entire plant was dripping from the tops and bottoms. Make sure to spray from every direction. It is a miticide, fungicide, and insecticide in one. It seems to work well, but I still get a few fungus gnats.

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  • grownok

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    December 1, 2024 at 1:12 pm
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    Mites are the reason I don’t use soil inside anymore…it’s just not enjoyable to grow plants when you have to fight pests the whole time

    • no-nanners

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      December 3, 2024 at 3:47 am
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      This!!!

    • zoomycat

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      December 5, 2024 at 1:15 am
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      How does soil affect mites? Last run I used Coco, perlite and worm castings and my plant produced just under an ounce for months of work. Was a good learning experience and the bud tastes amazing. The cure didn’t go the best.

      Current Mix is a ProMix Premium potting soil, Coco, Perlite, worm castings. The current plant seems to be doing much better as it seems like the ProMix is covering any nutrient mistakes I may make with the Gaia Green and it provides the Mycorrhizae for my medium mix. I’ve not found it to be too much different than the Coco blend itself in terms of the consistency but it does cover the nutrient needs better it seems.

      Is it some RNG factor that I just got lucky on where the soil due to sterility could have mites in it from the production facility?

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