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Can y’all explain autos to me? I’m not sure if I understand what’s different about them from other seeds. Can you get seeds from an auto by selfing (Edit: not welding, lol)? Why can’t you clone one?
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Autos have a set lifecycle that is not dependent on how much light they get. They will grow from seed through flower in almost any lighting condition. Photos follow the seasons and veg during the longer sunlight of the spring and summer and flower during the shorter days, starting usually about mid-August. Indoor, we mimick an 18 hour on and 6 hour off cycle in veg and 12 hours on/off in flower
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Autoflower seeds are one and done. No cloning.
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@jmystro yes, but I want to know why that is so?
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Autoflowering cannabis ruderalis was bred with photoperiod cannabis plants to bring some potency to autoflowering plants.
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@GuppyGirl this is because the plant has a pre determined life cycle that bring it to flowering after a certain amount of time, regardless of light. Because of this, clones will flower at the same time as the mother plant. They carry the same genes that force them into flowering state as the mother. With photoperiod plants, you can keep the clone in veg, so long as they continue to get 18 hours of light and 6 hours of darkness. Allowing the clipping to grow to a full size “offspring” of the mother plant. The ruderalis gene is what makes a plant an autoflowering plant. They developed in harsher climates with shorter spring and summer seasons. Meaning they had to complete their entire life cycle in a shorter time. Breeders have created some pretty incredible genetics by crossing fast paced cannabis ruderalis with the quality and yield producing genetics of cannabis sativa. Making for short flower time with potential for big, resin heavy buds.
I hope this helps! 😁
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@GuppyGirl You can clone an auto but it will flower at the same time as the mom plant because they automatically start flowering when they want to not when you want them to and you can’t stop them from flowering by increasing their light hours like a photo determinant plant because they can flower under 24 hours of light automatically hence the Autoflower name
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@wrath420 yeah, that makes sense. One of the guys on Discord said he would do it to get pollen.
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Welding and fish. Let’s go on a date!!! I love my Betas!!
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they are real characters
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I just realized I didn’t even answer all of your questions here 😅 my apologies.
As far as welding goes, I’m assuming that you’re talking about grafting part of a male onto a female plant in the hopes of getting seeds without as much pollenating abilities..? If this is what you’re referring to, or something similar, then my answer is unfortunately, I don’t know. At least not for sure. If grafting from a plant that didn’t have the ruderalis gene to a plant with the gene, I could see there being a chance at it working.
But! Autoflowers generally dislike stress. Most people won’t even transplant them do to fear of triggering it to flower before it’s actually ready.
So I think it’s safe to say that trying to graft a piece of an auto to a photoperiod would not work, it would just immediately try to flower. However, grafting photo onto auto… that’s an interesting topic that I’m going to have to research!
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@hippiekennyg welding was autocorrect. I meant “Selfing”.
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@GuppyGirl ah yes, autos can hermaphrodite and pollinate themselves as well. I believe that’s a byproduct of femenizing and can effect photo period or autoflower plants!
I personally won’t speak beyond that as I don’t know much about the genetics hunting side, at all. But I do know that it is *possible* for feminized autoflowers to self pollinate from turning hermaphrodite.
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@hippiekennyg you can also spray them with aqueous silver thiosulfate. That will make one produce pollen, from what I’ve read.
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