[cheeto]

I dove into this rabbithole not too long ago. You can search up the Vaportrol patent and use ChatGPT to teach you the technology. Its pretty simple. You can control dew point with a peltier device to provide dehumidification, cooling or heat.

You also have to set up some fans for air exchange if you want to mimic the drying (my guess)

All the fake Cannatrols I’ve seen so far don’t do it justice yet. A simple temp and humidity controller in a wine fridge might be decent but doesn’t cut it for me. There are many interesting nuances to think about when designing the unit. (Fan speed, ambient temps, passive humidity sponge, cooling, heating, managing dew point while cooling or heating), writing code for all that, figuring out how to control a peltier device using PWM, etc.

Good luck. Cannatrol is listed as $1600, but shipping is almost $200 + tax. So its close to $2000

Also for most people, you need 2 Cannatrols. 1 for storage (long term) and 1 for constant drying and curing. I don’t want to remove my storage nugs from the Cannatrol while I’m curing a new batch.

[dadsdispenary]

There is a discount if u buy more than 1.. if get 6 discount is better.. maybe some could get a group buy going!

[cheeto]

Buy 14 cannatrols for $1450 each = $20k

Shipping is $1300 LOL

I’d be interested…

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[cheeto]

I just picked one up for $1000 off Facebook marketplace this weekend

I had the seller send me his receipt (now I can send the unit in if needed)

I also spoke to the folks at Cannatrol to see if I could purchase parts from them if my used unit were to ever break down, they said they would gladly guide me through the process and answer any questions I have about curing

Great company honestly

Can’t wait to use it

[jmystro]

There is no substitution for proper processing. Rush equals ruin. Spend money on a proper space with A/C and dehumidification, then spend the proper amount of time to allow the natural processes to occur. 30 days minimum. Only then should you consider spending money on long term storage solutions.

[tylerkeenan]

hey i had a pretty big 1plant harvest, whole-plant-hang-dried for 7 days at 60/60, put the 270g in a black5gal bucket w/ gamma seal, the buds only got it bout 50% full idk if that’s the main issue, doing a really good job burping twice a day, the hygrometer is kinda low i wanted 62%, it was 59% and seems it’s only going down, i thought it was supposed to raise after 4 or so days but rn day7 of cure, it’s 57%, should i be worried i feel like it means at some point before bucket i accidentally dried too much or too fast while hanging, i figured now i throw big 62 boost pack in with the room humidifier raising the room’s percent from 40s to more like 55-60 to see if that does any better but idk maybe it would just be better with regular glass jars not sure if you got any tips or anything for me i’d appreciate it!

[jmystro]

@tylerkeenan You’re making a huge mistake rushing the process. Drying takes 30 days. You’ve heard of 60/60 so my SOP is being shared, but only part of it. That’s only 1/3rd of the process. Temperature can vary a bit up or down but the relative humidity is what’s the most important variable to slowly pulling out moisture.

Week 1-2: 60F/60% RH

Week 3: 60F/55% RH

Week 4: 60F/50% RH

Week 5: Seal long term.

There is no need to ever ‘burp’ properly dried cannabis.

[tylerkeenan]

oh ok thank you! i was just badly misguided from youtubers advice on how long it’s supposed to be drying also i was the most scared of over drying i didn’t realize it gets all the way down to 50, but next run i’ll try exactly what you just said, really appreciate it!

[jmystro]

You would need to be below 45% RH to over-dry a flower to dust at any point. You can dry it too fast at 50% RH in the beginning though. Microbes need moisture to break down chlorophyll and other organic compounds. These processes takes weeks and can not be rushed. You could hang branches for months at 60/60 and it would not over-dry. It’s not possible at 60% RH with cool temps. It’s ‘smokable’ after the first two weeks but it’s not perfect. I slowly bring the humidity down to 50% over the next two weeks. I store my flower at 40F/50% RH. Bud kept in 60% RH will hold a bit more moisture than bud stored at 50%. That moisture prevents some decarboxylation of cannabinoids decreasing the potency. This is why we can’t burn wet weed and get high.

[purp-terp-pheno-god]

you didn’t put enough product in to get it to raise to 62-64%. Needs to be 80-85% full to keep everything moist and proper. If need be, just add some fresh leaves for a few days to keep it elevated or it will dry out and not be worth smoking. Seen a commercial grower do it after I told him not too lol. His shit was dry af in 2 days and ruined. When it is full, you need to rotate the product also. Take it all out, let it sit for about 5-20 minutes depending on how wet it is still and then put back in, trying to get the stuff on the bottom to now be on the top. Makes for a perfectly even dry. ✌

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[tylerkeenan]

i didn’t mention but i’ve been doing an extremely thorough and mindful job with that part when “burping” but ya thank you for confirming because i was definitely thinking that, also it doesn’t seem like the end of the world! i’ve been testing it every now and then and the smells getting better and the grass taste keeps getting less and less which is keeping my hopes up!

[stanm]

If it’s any consolation I was gifted an outdoor grow sample that was dried in a pole barn. It’s pretty damn good in spite of less than perfect growing and drying conditions. The first time I smoked was 1970 so I did way more brick weed than I care to admit. Even today’s poorly cured weed by connoisseur standards is better than found its way to me in the legacy market.

• This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by  stanm.

[stanm]

That is true but the conversation starts and ends with dollar signs. My question is how are some good ways to compromise and do a better job with what we have?

Second question, last night I took a few hits of my flower from a one hitter and passed out in the recliner. How much will a perfect environment improve that so it would convince me that a second central air unit is a good investment on a fixed income?

I do this so for my neck and lymphoma to save money. Three to five hundred for an ounce here. I had another Vietnam era vet helping other vets and even that came in around two fifty per month.

When people say that the only way I can do this is to hire a contractor and spent 10k or give growin up as hopeless I demand to know real time benefits and not that somebody else can spend more. To me grow help is help and not ridicule.

• This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by  stanm.

[lightning93]

I bought a $200 humidor with temp and humidity control. I set it exactly the way canatrol does. They use wetbulb but i use a online calc to convert that to humidity. I hang dry for a few days but then in the humidor it goes set on 60deg/60% for drying 2 weeks and 60deg/55% for storage and curing. Iv done the jar thing at the same time with the same plant. The humidor weed is way better and smoother. I have done as much as 8oz wet and it did great. You have to look hard for one that has both temp and humidity control. The spikes are when I opened it.

[stanm]

What is the brand, make and model for the one that can be programmed similar to a Canitrol? I only do a few ounces at a time so the Canitrol would cost $1600 and sit empty half the time. I use Grove bags and like them but I would spend $200 on a humidor.

[battlemorph]

Nice!

[lightning93]

This one is jenjunye? From amazon. But they don’t sell this model anymore. I found several that are a twin under different names.

[battlemorph]

Thanks 🙂

[m1ghtym0u3e]

I don’t use it for drying but I have a cigar humidor set to 62F for long term storage. The brand name is needone and is well known in the cigar community. It does not control humidity however.

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[lightning93]

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That should be a Amazon link to a really nice one on sale.

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[stanm]

I decided to stick with the Grove bags and may transition to mason jars after a month as well. This is a case where the cost of these drying and curing devises would wipe out the money I save by growing.

[battlemorph]

Thanks 🙂 I’ll have to see if I can get one in Spain.

[Scrog_Dog]

All I can say is the cannatrol is worth every penny. Most all of my issues always came post harvest. Hard to get a stable environment some months here. If your home grow pulls more than 5 lbs at a time tho you need a second. My flower is super fresh. All that hard work growing doesn’t volotize off and is preserved…gets me higher for longer!

[stanm]

I could experiment until I nail the drying today but the room environment will be completely different when plants finish in May. That has to be determined at drying time based on current effects of outdoor environment on my lower level.

My lung room is 11×12 so if I have vegging, flowering and drying at the same time I put the emphasis in drying. After drying is complete I can dial the room closer. The alternative would be more HVAC equipment and hiring a contractor to install everything. Close enough will have to do.

Grove bags and adding an occasional leaf are working just fine, I bought a pack of humidity temp guages to more closely watch my bags in storage.

[stanm]

I am sticking with the drying tent and rigging up a vent system for the dehumidifier. My problem is a half basement, yard still frozen and not much moisture. The settings dialing it in today will be obsolete by the weekend. We’ll be entering a rainy with snow flurries week after some 80’s in southern Minnesota tomorrow.

I am experimenting with direct vent connection to humidify vegging and drying better. Hopefully I can figure out a way to regulate it into the correct VPD range.

[stanm]

Typo, I am rigging a vent system to humidity. If that doesn’t work I need to grab one of those grow tent humidifiers that sits outside the tent with a probe. Humidifying is my least favorite thing because it increases the number of times I have to RO water. Environment will improve inside the tents when plants are big enough for a full watering. That tends to keep the whole room more stable.